tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post7150727049332617034..comments2023-11-05T04:16:44.937-05:00Comments on Advanced Football Analytics (formerly Advanced NFL Stats): Thoughts on WR StatsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post-52898972156488433692012-07-06T00:27:32.290-04:002012-07-06T00:27:32.290-04:00These stats u talk about is matter of opinion me a...These stats u talk about is matter of opinion me and u can watch the same mistake and blame two different people then how do u do the statsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post-31193177979174718152012-01-06T22:38:54.886-05:002012-01-06T22:38:54.886-05:00You count the Passes that hit are in their area of...You count the Passes that hit are in their area of influence. From the waist to the top of their helmet. Also Passes they could have caught had they laid out or simply leaned forward. <br /><br />I know this is nearly a year late but here are my thoughts having played. Not professionally but I think I understand the game well enough to pitch my case.<br /><br />Not every Pass is going to be a thing of beauty. <br /><br />We roast guys like Smith for throwing high, but praise the Staffords of the NFL because they put the ball where nobody but Megatron can get it.<br /><br />We should also count Interceptions against Receivers if the ball can be played and the Receiver doesn't go up to knock it away. As well as tipped balls that had no business of being touched if they can only get one hand on it and knock it up for the Opposing Defense to recover before it hits the ground. I played. I was taught to knock those down and give the QB another chance or allow the ST unit to do what they do. No reason to give the other team a takeaway in that scenario.<br /><br />Passes out of bounds count as an uncatchable Pass.<br /><br />You really can't count bad Route Running even though it plays a HUGE factor in turnovers. How do you prove it was the fault of the Receiver or the QB. For all we know the QB had a moment that he wished he had that one back so he could throw it to where it needed to go. Also chemistry affects this when the Receiver and the QB aren't on the same page with specific Blitz packs, not to mention Man up/off or Zone coverage because the Receiver or QB haven't had the Reps in practice due to injury. Some things you just cannot account for. <br /><br />Look at Braylon Edwards this season. He missed so much time due to the knee and then the shoulder, that he just couldn't get back onto the same page with Alex Smith. Harbaugh's offense may look simple but you cannot miss the Reps for huge chunks of time and expect there to be chemistry between the Receiver and the QB. It's not going to happen. You have to be there or you have to have a bunk area for the players to spend the extra time with the playbook, game plan and film study to compensate.<br /><br />Crabtree took 3 years to get on the same page consistently.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post-85836302520133328262010-02-20T00:01:14.914-05:002010-02-20T00:01:14.914-05:00Thanks. It's a misnomer to call that +/-, but...Thanks. It's a misnomer to call that +/-, but it's definitely along the lines of what I was thinking for establishing a baseline catch rate.Brian Burkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12371470711365236987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post-29313875866317038782010-02-19T23:57:15.258-05:002010-02-19T23:57:15.258-05:00FO has done some related work:
http://www.footbal...FO has done some related work:<br /><br />http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2009/receiving-plusminus-part-i<br /><br />http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2009/receiving-plusminus-part-iiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post-9522566954387962332010-02-19T18:36:57.286-05:002010-02-19T18:36:57.286-05:00I think you should also adjust for the QB's pe...I think you should also adjust for the QB's performance when he throws to his other teammates. Is Pierre Garcon really that good, or is it Peyton Manning? Well, see how Peyton does when he throws to Garcon (stats like YPA, comp%, WPA per attempt, etc), and compare that to how he fares when he throws to Wayne, Collie, Clark, and the rest of his teammates.Zachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post-8313678531431764902010-02-19T15:16:05.591-05:002010-02-19T15:16:05.591-05:00>>How do you know Andre Johnson is a really ...>>How do you know Andre Johnson is a really good receiver?<br /><br />Because I heard a guy in the bar telling his friend that AJ is greal.<br /><br />;-)<br /><br /><br />I am somewhat skeptical of this proposed WR stat, but will keep an open mind.<br /><br />I think additional data is needed that is not easily available. Then more interesting advanced stats can be tracked.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post-65979831450892563652010-02-19T12:32:06.919-05:002010-02-19T12:32:06.919-05:00"Is it because of your keen professional scou..."Is it because of your keen professional scouting eye that can detect the greatness of a player in the ONE GAME the Texans are on TV each year?"<br /><br />My poor Texans :(. Their day will come.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com