tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post2525239827986523007..comments2023-11-05T04:16:44.937-05:00Comments on Advanced Football Analytics (formerly Advanced NFL Stats): Punting From Your Own Goal LineUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post-50882802431105345762012-10-07T16:21:10.041-04:002012-10-07T16:21:10.041-04:00BahahahahahaBahahahahahatmknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post-24173137872636986042012-10-07T15:29:31.587-04:002012-10-07T15:29:31.587-04:00Does this include blocked punts?Does this include blocked punts?Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01838293735141324662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post-83504887312519297652012-10-07T10:23:04.674-04:002012-10-07T10:23:04.674-04:00@JHoltz The evidence that wasn't shared, basic...@JHoltz The evidence that wasn't shared, basically consists of the fact that by playing to "give the punter room" you give up significantly more EPA during the first 3 downs than you gain on 4th down. This should be pretty obvious to most people reading this blog.nottomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03991575500138449082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post-1503182380765577632012-10-07T10:20:51.328-04:002012-10-07T10:20:51.328-04:00What @MarkP said.
Also, the last table seems to i...What @MarkP said.<br /><br />Also, the last table seems to imply that it helps the punters to be outside the 7, which makes sense when one assumes they stand about 15 yards behind the line to punt. Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post-58535797568052551922012-10-07T10:06:48.102-04:002012-10-07T10:06:48.102-04:00Is EPA really the best metric in this particular c...Is EPA really the best metric in this particular case? The problem is that the EP is different leading into the play, making a direct comparison more difficult. For example, following: 4th & 7 from own 4 (-1.49 EP) or 4th & 10 from own 1 (-1.62 EP), a 39 net yard punt (current median of NFL average by team) results in EP (for your opponent) of +2.49 and +2.66, respectively. This leads to EPA of -1 and -1.04 for two identical punts, and could explain the pattern seen in this data.<br /><br />I understand that average net of punts would lose some information, but it might be informative to see. Additionally, at least my (anecdotal) thinking is that the reduced room increases the chance of a blocked punt, not necessarily increased TD returns or shorter net punts. MarkPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02337868053749239010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post-41142514105366038742012-10-07T09:23:18.468-04:002012-10-07T09:23:18.468-04:00@JHolz The evidence was provided in the linked art...@JHolz The evidence was provided in the linked article in the first sentence, and about every other article on this site.Kulkohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17657346387956365135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post-19909133071324022472012-10-07T04:48:23.102-04:002012-10-07T04:48:23.102-04:00so:
giving your punter room has a benefit, as we a...so:<br />giving your punter room has a benefit, as we always thought.<br /><br />but passing is better, because of some evidence you haven't shared with us.<br /><br />I assume the data will back you up, but at least provide some.j holzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13428814047654767163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post-89273005423651148862012-10-07T04:48:21.745-04:002012-10-07T04:48:21.745-04:00so:
giving your punter room has a benefit, as we a...so:<br />giving your punter room has a benefit, as we always thought.<br /><br />but passing is better, because of some evidence you haven't shared with us.<br /><br />I assume the data will back you up, but at least provide some.j holzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13428814047654767163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post-67437984751438639062012-10-07T01:08:48.787-04:002012-10-07T01:08:48.787-04:00This does not fit my intuitive expectations or whe...This does not fit my intuitive expectations or when I play Madden. What about [anecdote]? Your model doesn't have an answer to that. Useless research.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com