tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post359486721549649671..comments2023-11-05T04:16:44.937-05:00Comments on Advanced Football Analytics (formerly Advanced NFL Stats): Who's the Clutchiest Post-Season QB?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post-77611210728109229752013-02-02T10:22:33.276-05:002013-02-02T10:22:33.276-05:00@TPM and Tarr: exactly. The QB's performance ...@TPM and Tarr: exactly. The QB's performance isn't even considered, only the final result.Steve Onoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post-91286310685469054242013-01-29T17:56:28.889-05:002013-01-29T17:56:28.889-05:00I agree with Tarr...for the most part, the media j...I agree with Tarr...for the most part, the media just looks at who won the game, and then states that the losing quarterback "choked" or didn't do enough, etc. TPMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17870991979150074940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post-12301052857234323602013-01-29T13:33:44.540-05:002013-01-29T13:33:44.540-05:00Joe, I think you are being too charitable when you...Joe, I think you are being too charitable when you say that the media is comparing Manning's (and others') postseason WPA to their regular season WPA. That's much more sophisticated than what I think they are really doing, which is just looking at wins, and in particular, Super Bowl wins, and ignoring what particular factors led to wins or losses in a given game.Tarrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368810359650066790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post-41218265485899194792013-01-29T10:40:47.903-05:002013-01-29T10:40:47.903-05:00Fun thinking about who performs above their norm, ...Fun thinking about who performs above their norm, but in the end, one should be much more interested in WPA.<br /> <br />I mean, on the "Years Combined" chart, Steve McNair rates as a clutch performer (datapoint above the line) and Aaron Rodgers rates as a choker (below the line).<br /><br />But Rodgers' WPA is higher than McNair's, implying that even when he chokes, you'd rather have Rodgers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post-19192495283775060832013-01-28T23:37:17.649-05:002013-01-28T23:37:17.649-05:00I'll do a reg season vs. post-season WPA compa...I'll do a reg season vs. post-season WPA comparison soon. Wish I could go back to Montana and even earlier...Brian Burkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12371470711365236987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post-46156715849215600302013-01-28T21:47:39.585-05:002013-01-28T21:47:39.585-05:00Joe - Here are the stats on Manning:
Regular Seas...Joe - Here are the stats on Manning:<br /><br />Regular Season: EPA/P: 0.24, WPA/G: 0.24<br />Playoffs: EPA/P: 0.16, WPA/G: 0.22<br /><br />For comparison, Tom Brady:<br /><br />Regular Season: EPA/P: 0.20, WPA/G: 0.19<br />Playoffs: EPA/P: 0.12, WPA/G: 0.18<br /><br />Manning's WPA drops off slightly in the playoffs, but so does Brady's. And Manning still has a higher WPA in the playoffs.<br /><br />Also, no Tony Montana. Invalid.<br />Michael Beuoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03960600491528993233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post-21288068568045234102013-01-28T12:17:33.651-05:002013-01-28T12:17:33.651-05:00No Kobe. Invalid.No Kobe. Invalid.Jonathannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post-6297545995739170222013-01-28T12:01:13.923-05:002013-01-28T12:01:13.923-05:00Uh...the list only goes back to year 2000. That...Uh...the list only goes back to year 2000. That's why there's no Joe Montana, Johnny Unitas, Terry Bradshaw, etc.TPMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17870991979150074940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post-79788019952543716862013-01-28T11:51:41.211-05:002013-01-28T11:51:41.211-05:00No Joe Montanna, You list is invalidNo Joe Montanna, You list is invalidAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post-26905056677557630732013-01-28T06:55:17.412-05:002013-01-28T06:55:17.412-05:00For Manning (and most quarterbacks) he media are d...For Manning (and most quarterbacks) he media are doing a slightly different analysis in their heads. They are not comparing EPA to WPA within the post-season. They are comparing WPA in the post-season to WPA in the regular season. In this respect, and I haven't looked at the numbers, I imagine that Manning does under-perform.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13620964741133552233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38600807.post-13299945166371500812013-01-27T23:36:17.181-05:002013-01-27T23:36:17.181-05:00I'm a little surprised that Manning is as high...I'm a little surprised that Manning is as highly ranked as he is. Seems to counter the dominate media narrative of Manning being a 'Post-Season Choker'.Jasonnoreply@blogger.com